Condor reinstallation and UB DirectPlay8 Error

I re-installed Condor yesterday using my original installation directory on D:\Condor. Condor is pretty slow to open in a task from large HD sceneries like Arc Alpin (AA). I didn’t want to install on my C:\ drive (which is the Samsung NVMe SSD drive) because of potential space problems. Today, I tried to join a task from one of the public servers. When I clicked on the join button I received this error:

I searched the web for a solution and the simplest one was the one that worked. That was to simply open “Turn Windows Features On or Off” from the control panel; scroll down to the Legacy Components setting and click DirectPlay:

Before trying this fix I uninstalled Condor from the D:\ drive and installed it on C:\Condor.

The next problem was that, since I had moved the Condor directory from c:\ to d:\, the goodies downloads stopped working. I tried several things, including using MS Edge instead of Chrome, none of which worked. Finally I decided to search the registry for an instance of CTDB. I found one that showed the goodies location at d:\condor\goodies. I changed the ‘d’ to a ‘c’ and that fixed the problem!

And, by the way, Condor and tasks don’t seem to load much, if any faster, from the SSD!


Why is the ASW 27 the most popular Condor sailplane?

I came across this question that I had asked in a Condor forum back in 2009. Not only was this question answered but several other tips were offered and it’s a good review of contest strategy:

Why is the ASW 27 the most popular Condor sailplane?

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Why is the ASW 27 the most popular Condor sailplane?

Postby korkiley » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:54 pm

I raced in one of the Saint Auban Challenge races and am preparing to race the last one. In reviewing the results, it is obvious that the Schleicher ASW 27 is the most popular sailplane, especially among the winners! I am interested to know why that is. I look forward to a discussion on this subject!


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Re: Why is the ASW 27 the most popular Condor sailplane?

Postby eisenhans » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:57 pm

Hey Kor,

in most cases we have better weather conditions than in real life.

The result of this is a faster speed concerning to real life.
There are also constructed ridge tasks like the tasks in my ridge race league.

The asw27 is a 15m plane. Very nice handling and a high top speed.
Take a look @ the polars with full water ballast and set speed via MC to 200kmh
Now compare with all the other gliders.

Above 200kmh asw27 has a better glide ratio than every other plane existing in Condor.
So @ tasks with higher speeds its always a good choice.

Another point is its index. If u fly together with all classes in a high speed race all the guys
with LS10, ASG29 and Ventus2cx have to fly much faster to get an equal score.

So try to get a feeling for task speed by checking its settings before.
If you are sure that it is a highspeed task asw27 is the best choice.

If it is a slower task maybe you have better chance with a glider wich has higher performance
@ lower speeds. Like the 18m class gliders.

@ ridge tasks u have to fly very close to ridge in condor. Cause of its 15m it is easy to handle near the ridge.

This is my opinion. I think in real life where the tasks are not that fast the ventus2 gets better results.
(in the comps i’ve checked)

Look @ the results of my league for example this here:

I decided to take ls10 cause there are slower parts u have to glide without help of ridge
if u stay on course.

Other guys took asw27 and took different ways. One did a longer way back on a big ridge
other guy took same way than me. Both are far in front cause of their index.
We’re talking of a 250km task flown with round about 200kmh.

Hope this was correct and will help you a bit.


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Re: Why is the ASW 27 the most popular Condor sailplane?

Postby korkiley » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:07 pm


Thank you so much for your detailed reply. I knew the top racers must have some good reason for choosing the ASW 27b. I like to fly the open class birds because my computer is over six years old with a crappy video card so a slow reacting plane is more forgiving for my very low frame rates (5 to 15 fps!). But I’ve been choosing a 15 meter plane when I have to wind around in the mountains to take advantage of the ridge lift. I also looked for the glider with the highest top speed for ridge running in the Eastern Alps where you can push top speed almost all of the time and can easily shed a wing if you’re not fully alert.

Do you also take on as much water ballast as you can if you think the conditions are going to be very reliable? I haven’t seen much discussion about ballast. It seems like ballast gains a lot in most situations, and if I’m correct, is only a disadvantage in narrow thermals where you have to fly very slowly. Is that correct or are there other considerations?


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Re: Why is the ASW 27 the most popular Condor sailplane?

Postby eisenhans » Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:34 pm

No prob. Hope i am right.

OK framerate is another topic.
I dont know mine. Playin on a notebook.

The open class birds glide like hell if u fly them slow.
If u push them to the limit they loose their advantages.

I always start full with max startalt and speed near flutter.
U can still drop water if the conditions are too weak.

I try to hold it all race long and with asw27 i stay above 130 for sure.
Below you dont need no water. I use MC in cloudtasks.
With good condition i work with 2.5 to 3.5 (in thermal tasks with 27 again)

In ridge task i just use MC for final glide and look for good route in PDA
and task information. I try to stay above 200 and make some dolpihn jumps
@ monster lift passages.
I try to fly not faster than 250 @ ridge during my travel.

I start FG early and push it to red dot staying closte to ridge.

Just leave my water when theres sth in my way and i shoul climb above fast.
Afterwards i should be so high that i dont need no water anymore to do FG with max speed.

I avoid circling during ridge tasks.

In thermal tasks u have to find your own style with full water.
I do it bit faster and narrow. PDA helps a lot to center.

I try to avoid bad clouds as a dolphin again and use the better ones.

Better get that speed ring for correct flap setting from condor-club
to avoid wrong flap positions.

There good threads on thermaling.




Adding New Scenery Files to Condor2Nav

Condor2Nav, a utility that will translate a Condor flight plan to use with XCSoar, hasn’t been supported since 2012 and there have been no new maps added since 2010. I was very frustrated by this since there have been a lot of new Condor sceneries added since then, and you won’t be able to translate a flight plan using a scenery that doesn’t have a .xcm file. I searched the Condor forums as well as the sourceforge condor2nav page, looking for instructions on how to do this. I didn’t find an easy answer but was able to piece together several different facts to figure out how to do it. Here are my steps:

  1. Go to the MapGen page on the XCSoar site.
  2. Enter the Map name. It should be the same name as the Condor scenery file. We can use AA (ArcAlps) as an example. The name of the scenery is AA which is the name of the Condor scenery directory for this scenery, i.e. …\condor\landscape\AA
  3. Fill in your emails address if you want to be notified when the map generation has been completed.
  4. The only option I changed was “Add waypoint file and compute map bounds automatically.”
  5. Choose the waypoint file that is located in …\condor\landscape\AA. It is the file with a .cup extension. In the case of AA it is called AA.cup
  6. Click “Generate”. The screen changes to AA: Creating terrain files.
  7. The generation can take ten or fifteen minutes for a large scenery. When it is done, there will be a Download push button.
  8. You can download it directly to …\condor2nav\Maps\Maps.
  9. Rename the file from AA.xcm to AA_1.0.xcm. The scenery appears in Condor as AA[1.0].
  10. Copy this file to the file that you downloaded from the condor2nav site. I do this for safe keeping.
  11. Attach the device you are using XCSoar on and copy this xcm file to …\XCSoarData\Condor2NavDataSubDir. You will have copied all of the files that were in when you were setting up XCSoar to use condor2nav.
  12. Edit D:\CondorUtils\condor2nav\condor2nav\data\XCSoar\SceneryData.csv and add the new scenery information in the same csv format that you see in the file. You should also place it in the correct alphabetical order. In my case, AA was the first entry in the file. I simply added the line: AA,AA_1.0.xcm,,  Be sure to add the two commas to the end of the line.
  13. There is one additional file that I added but am not sure it was necessary. Also, I didn’t know all the information that is provided in that file. The location is …\condor2nav\data\Landscapes and the file should have the name of the scenery file–in this case AA_1.0.TXT. You can look at the contents of one of the other files to see what is included. In my case, since I allowed mapgen to generate the xcm file based on the AA.cup (waypoint) file, I had no idea what the  values for


were so I deleted those lines and left the rest of the lines the same as for other files.

This should be all that is necessary! If I learn more in the future I will amend my instructions.